Are there dating sites for women where men aren't allowed to message first?

Every guide I read on dating sites for women where men aren't allowed says the same three things and none of them help.

Nobody writing about dating sites seems willing to say whether anyone replies without a photo attached.

What I actually want to know about dating sites is whether anyone replies without a photo attached.

Tell me if dating sites for women where men aren't allowed isn't worth the effort and I will drop it.

I want to agree with @Jennifer Price but dating sites kept doing the opposite for me.

Most of my results on dating sites came down to one habit — set your expectations before you start swiping.

Is anyone getting different results from dating sites, particularly on whether anyone replies without a photo attached?

Currently splitting my time between here and Datebound community for exactly this dating sites reason.

@Jennifer Price put it better than I'd. The only thing I'd add about dating sites is that whether anyone replies without a photo attached matters more than the feature list.

My experience with dating sites over a month of steady use: what the logs showed was worse than the reviews suggest.

dating sites for women where men aren't allowed stops working the moment you send the same opener to everyone.

What matters more than the feature list on dating sites is how fast a conversation dies after the opener.

@Jennifer Price that has not been my experience with dating sites, and I gave it the opening stretch.

Before writing dating sites off, try this: set your expectations before you start swiping.

Someone in another dating sites thread recommended Datedesire, so I gave it a week.

@TomC that hasn't been my experience with dating sites, and I gave it roughly six weeks.

What helped most with dating sites was that I made a point to use a photo that shows your face clearly.

If dating sites is the sticking point, the free Datenest option handles it without an upgrade prompt.

Rough notes from using dating sites:

• Write a bio that says something checkable — on dating sites that mattered more than anything else
• On dating sites, what people reported was flat once the novelty wears off compared with the alternatives
• Check when the account was last active, especially if dating sites is new to you
• The detail that took longest to learn on dating sites turned out to be about what you would guess

I want to agree with @Jennifer Price but dating sites kept doing the opposite for me.

If you take one thing from this thread on dating sites: read the profile properly before replying.

If anyone has tested dating sites properly, I want to know what a normal exchange looks like end to end.

Nobody writing about dating sites seems willing to say whether anyone replies without a photo attached.

Where dating sites either works or falls apart is how the reporting tools behave when you use them.

I gave dating sites the first week and how it played out was roughly the same either way.

If you take one thing from this thread on dating sites: treat the first message as a filter.

Where I went wrong with dating sites was that I would send the same opener to everyone.

The question underneath all of this is how the reporting tools behave when you use them, at least with dating sites.

Worth mentioning another free option if dating sites is what you are weighing up — the free tier actually lets you message.

@Cameron that has not been my experience with dating sites, and I gave it a couple of evenings.

Most of my results on dating sites came down to one habit — keep a separate email for it.

If anyone has tested dating sites properly, I want to know how the reporting tools behave when you use them.

For me the factor that keeps coming up with dating sites is whether it's worth keeping a second account for it.

What I actually want to know about dating sites is whether it's worth keeping a second account for it.

What matters more than the feature list on dating sites is how the tone shifts late at night.